Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/21/2002 03:23 PM House MLV

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HB 324-HOMELAND SECURITY APPROPRIATIONS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT announced  that the  committee would  continue to                                                               
consider  HOUSE BILL  NO. 324,  "An Act  making supplemental  and                                                               
other appropriations for homeland  security; and providing for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0134                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT brought  attention to  Item 43  [of the  document                                                               
titled "Terrorism  Disaster Policy  Cabinet:  Cost  Estimates for                                                               
Highest Priority  Recommendations," dated 1/14/02].   He informed                                                               
the committee that Wayne Rush was online to answer questions.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0181                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JANET  CLARKE,  Director,  Division of  Administration  Services,                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services (DHSS), came forward to                                                               
testify along  with Karen  Pearson.   Before addressing  Item 43,                                                               
she  offered  a  handout  related   to  federal  funding,  titled                                                               
"Bioterrorism  Preparedness  &  Response:   Supplemental  Funding                                                               
Summary."   Ms.  Clarke informed  members that  Washington, D.C.,                                                               
has recognized  the problems in  public health and in  not having                                                               
enough  support and  infrastructure  capacity  for public  health                                                               
throughout the country.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE pointed  out that  the federal  government has  dealt                                                               
with anthrax  issues since the  previous fall, and to  her belief                                                               
has already  appropriated, through the President,  over a billion                                                               
dollars nationwide;  a certain amount  allocated to the  State of                                                               
Alaska can go  for many items proposed in [HB  324].  Emphasizing                                                               
that a lot  of requests might be converted to  federal funding at                                                               
some point, she asked Ms.  Pearson to discuss that before delving                                                               
into the  individual items.   In response to Chair  Chenault, Ms.                                                               
Clarke clarified,  "We already know  Alaska is going to  get $6.9                                                               
million  for public  health-related items  for bioterrorism,  and                                                               
the money has already been appropriated at the federal level."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0375                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KAREN   E.  PEARSON,   Director,  Division   of  Public   Health,                                                               
Department of Health  and Social Services, pointed  out that many                                                               
components relate not just to  the Division of Public Health, but                                                               
also   to  the   existing  public   health  system   through  the                                                               
municipalities, tribal  health organizations, and so  forth.  The                                                               
federal money  will go  into that whole,  broad system,  which is                                                               
why [DHSS]  couldn't say  right now what  items could  be removed                                                               
from the  list [of requested  appropriations].  She said  a group                                                               
of  partners,  including  some   just  mentioned,  need  to  come                                                               
together  with [DHSS],  within the  constraints and  framework of                                                               
funds being made  available, to decide where to  best invest that                                                               
money  to achieve  the specific  benchmarks required  by Congress                                                               
with regard  to the money, "and  how that fits in  our particular                                                               
system."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON reported  that within  her division  are four  areas                                                               
relating to  the figures [she and  Ms. Clarke] had been  asked to                                                               
address  today:    the sections  of  epidemiology,  laboratories,                                                               
public  health  nursing,  and   community  health  and  emergency                                                               
medical services.   All would  be "playing ... into  our partners                                                               
in  public safety  when there  is some  kind of  an event."   She                                                               
cited  recent anthrax  issues  as an  example,  noting that  just                                                               
yesterday a  sample was received  in the laboratory  for testing.                                                               
Indicating  people are  still concerned  and vigilant  about [the                                                               
possibility  that  anthrax  or  other  substances  will  be  sent                                                               
through  the mail],  Ms. Pearson  said that  is good  because the                                                               
threat is  no less today than  last fall, even though  it is less                                                               
visible.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON explained that the  epidemiologists [in her division]                                                               
do  disease  surveillance  and  that   if  there  were  a  covert                                                               
biological attack  - unannounced,  but with people  just becoming                                                               
ill -  it is  that system which  would pick it  up as  quickly as                                                               
possible.     The  lab   would  do   testing  and   then  provide                                                               
confirmation and  results.  The  public health  nursing [section]                                                               
would do  a mass dissemination  of antibiotics or  follow-up, for                                                               
example.   And the  emergency medical  services people  are there                                                               
whatever the disaster or [emergency] is.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0639                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  requested clarification about  the partners                                                               
mentioned by Ms. Pearson.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  highlighted the  last half  of the  paragraph titled                                                               
"Summary" under  "Public Health Preparedness &  Response Program"                                                               
on the first  page of the department's handout.   She pointed out                                                               
that  it talks  about who  needs to  come together  at the  table                                                               
"with us"  to determine  where the  money will  go and  what will                                                               
actually be  done with it.   Entities listed are state  and local                                                               
health  departments  [and  governments];  [emergency  management]                                                               
agencies [and  emergency medical services]; [the  Office of Rural                                                               
Health]; law  enforcement, fire, emergency rescue  [workers], and                                                               
occupational   health  [workers];   other  healthcare   providers                                                               
[including]  university, academic,  medical, and  public health];                                                               
community  health  [centers];  [Red  Cross  and  other  volunteer                                                               
organizations];  [hospital   community  including   military  and                                                               
Veterans  Administration  (VA)   hospitals;  and  [tribal  health                                                               
organizations].                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.   PEARSON  indicated   the  foregoing   would  be   mandatory                                                               
participants,  according  to  Congress,  but that  there  may  be                                                               
others who  aren't listed.   All would  "sit down"  regarding the                                                               
$6.4 million of  "bigger public health money" and  would ask what                                                               
benchmarks  must   be  achieved,  such  as   assuring  90-percent                                                               
coverage  within  [Alaska]  for  the  Health  Alert  Network,  an                                                               
electronic system  of communication.   Then they would  ask where                                                               
the money needs to be spent in order to achieve those things.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0754                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN, noting  that  the document  says the  plan                                                               
must  be  submitted  by  April  15,  surmised  that  the  "coming                                                               
together" would be imminent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  agreed, pointing out  that conference calls  are set                                                               
up  for the  next week;  that there  will be  mandatory training,                                                               
which all states send people to,  on March 5; and that there will                                                               
be face-to-face meetings when those people return.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE noted  that "public health" in the current  bill has a                                                               
total of  $4.4 million.   She said there  would be a  pretty good                                                               
idea,  in the  next  week  or two,  of  which  items will  likely                                                               
qualify for federal  money; the planning process  will help flesh                                                               
that out.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0834                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  began specific  discussion of  Item 43,  which read,                                                               
"Do a  feasibility study for  a Biosafety Level III  lab facility                                                               
at the Fairbanks Public Health  Lab to provide in-state redundant                                                               
capability."  Noting  that it is a capital item,  she deferred to                                                               
Ms. Pearson for details.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  said [Item 43]  is in  response to concerns,  in all                                                               
states and at  the federal level, about what would  happen if the                                                               
only lab with  the capacity to respond were in  the location of a                                                               
major  event.   For  example, perhaps  the  building wouldn't  be                                                               
harmed, but  staff would be  rendered incapable of working.   The                                                               
recommendation  of Congress  is  to critically  look  at what  it                                                               
would take  to do  redundant capacity,  she noted,  including the                                                               
pros and cons, cost-effectiveness, and so forth.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON explained  that currently there is a  virology lab in                                                               
Fairbanks,  for which  the department  wants to  look at  whether                                                               
there is a  need to build in capacity to  do some bacteriological                                                               
work -  the kind of  testing currently  done in Anchorage.   That                                                               
money [in Item  43] would assist with  [thoroughly] analyzing the                                                               
cost  to have  some  level  of redundant  capacity  and what  the                                                               
tradeoffs would be  if Alaska did or did not  have that capacity.                                                               
In  response  to questions,  she  clarified  that the  department                                                               
would look at the need to be able  to do a bit of virology [work]                                                               
in Anchorage as well.  Thus if  one lab "went down" or there were                                                               
"big numbers,"  both labs could work  on the same problem  at the                                                               
same time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0999                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT asked  why it  hasn't been  done in  the past  or                                                               
isn't being done currently.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON responded that nothing  has been that time-sensitive.                                                               
It has been fine to have  one set of expertise [in Anchorage] and                                                               
another [in Fairbanks], and to  direct specimens to whichever lab                                                               
is appropriate.   Originally  there were  three regional  labs in                                                               
Alaska,  including  one  in  Juneau.   However,  the  expense  of                                                               
technology  and equipment  precluded maintaining  that level  [of                                                               
regional labs]; thus  the decision was made to  have the majority                                                               
of work  done in Anchorage  and to  maintain the virology  lab in                                                               
Fairbanks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1062                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked why the study would require $100,000.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON  replied  that   currently  Fairbanks  doesn't  have                                                               
"Biosafety  Level  III,"  the ability  to  appropriately  protect                                                               
workers against  what the  lab director  calls "the  really nasty                                                               
bugs."   [The  study] would  look at  configurations and  how the                                                               
physical space would  have to be modified,  which are "architect-                                                               
design" issues, as well as  cost-effectiveness.  A certain amount                                                               
of technical work  would be needed, along with  the assessment of                                                               
the cost of operations, for example.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1151                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT  suggested  operating   costs  at  the  Anchorage                                                               
facility could be used as a  base amount to determine some of the                                                               
costs without spending more money.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON  agreed, if  it  were  simply a  feasibility  study,                                                               
rather than  involving design issues.   She  added that it  is an                                                               
"outside number."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1244                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE began  addressing  Item 51,  relating  to the  public                                                               
health lab, which read,  "On-going bioterrorism response capacity                                                               
including  training,  travel  to   training,  lab  supplies,  and                                                               
salary/[overtime] costs/vacancy  reduction."  She  explained that                                                               
[the  department] had  learned in  the fall  of 2001  [during the                                                               
time  of  anthrax-caused  deaths elsewhere  and  related  testing                                                               
nationwide] that the laboratory was  really impacted in an event.                                                               
The lab was turned into a  24-hour facility, which it hadn't been                                                               
before.  She  mentioned the need to be "staffed  up" and the need                                                               
for reagent testing and so forth.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON  joined  in,  indicating  that  during  the  anthrax                                                               
response, approximately  a 50-percent  vacancy rate was  found in                                                               
the  Anchorage lab,  a rate  that had  been growing  over several                                                               
years   because  salaries   weren't   competitive.     A   fairly                                                               
significant part  of the  request therefore  relates to  the fact                                                               
that the  department had used personal-services  money [intended]                                                               
for vacant positions  in order to cover  supplies and operations.                                                               
Personal  services is  more than  $400,000 of  that request,  she                                                               
noted;  it  is to  be  able  to  fully  staff the  facility  [and                                                               
includes]  the higher-level  salaries  necessary  to recruit  and                                                               
keep staff.  Most of the  rest is in supplies, including reagents                                                               
and so forth.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE,  in regard  to the  50-percent vacancy  discovered in                                                               
the  microbiologist staffing,  noted  that people  had said  they                                                               
could make [an additional] $700 or  more a month working in other                                                               
hospital labs; the  lab was losing people to  the private sector.                                                               
Furthermore, the lab director was  working 18-hour days trying to                                                               
keep the tests timely.  It  was a strain on the lab's capability.                                                               
Ms. Clarke  emphasized that this  is a specialized area  in which                                                               
the state needs  to be competitive in order to  [hire and retain]                                                               
appropriate  people  who can  perform  the  tests and  have  fast                                                               
turnaround times; the bulk of the money would go for that.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1440                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT asked how many people work at the facility now.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE or MS. PEARSON said fifteen.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON  said  a  majority  are  either  microbiologists  or                                                               
"techs," with about  three administrative staff.   In response to                                                               
questions, she said this portion is  to pay the people who are on                                                               
staff;  another  request  [in  a separate  item]  would  add  two                                                               
microbiologists.  She  emphasized the need for money  to fill the                                                               
existing positions  and pay the  appropriate salaries.   She said                                                               
she thinks  this clearly represents  what Congress  is responding                                                               
to  with  making  this  money   available  to  states.    It  was                                                               
discovered in  Washington, D.C., and the  surrounding states that                                                               
the public  health infrastructure in  this country - not  just in                                                               
Alaska - hasn't been adequately  funded; when something happened,                                                               
therefore, all  those "holes" in  the system started  showing up.                                                               
Ms. Pearson said this infrastructure  is needed to do the day-to-                                                               
day  work  for Alaskans,  to  fight  infectious diseases  and  so                                                               
forth, and  would also  be available if  there were  a terrorist-                                                               
related event.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1571                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE  added that the  requested funds in  personal services                                                               
will do  two things.   Approximately half  is to  replenish money                                                               
that was used,  because there were vacancies,  for supplies; that                                                               
has  been yearly,  she indicated,  "just to  keep things  going."                                                               
The other half is to deal with the vacancy problems.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1603                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  remarked that Items  51, 54, and 55  add up                                                               
to  about $1.75  million, "with  a little  training and  a little                                                               
travel," for personnel.  He said it is a lot of people.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE concurred.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT   noted  that   it  doesn't  include   the  [two]                                                               
microbiologists [requested in Item 33].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1648                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON emphasized  the belief that a certain  amount will be                                                               
covered by  money from the federal  government, which understands                                                               
that the  infrastructure needs support.   However, it  is unknown                                                               
exactly what that [amount will be].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT acknowledged  that  it isn't  the [exact]  amount                                                               
needed from  the general fund  (GF), but  said it is  proposed in                                                               
[HB 324]  that way and that  the committee therefore needs  to at                                                               
least look at it.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1699                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE  reported that  Alaska has  had difficulty  keeping up                                                               
with   necessary   work   on   infectious   diseases,   including                                                               
tuberculosis (TB)  outbreaks.   This proposal  is similar  to one                                                               
[DHSS] had last year called "Back  to Basics."  Ms. Clarke agreed                                                               
with   Ms.  Pearson   that   it  requires   the   same  kind   of                                                               
infrastructure to deal  with infectious diseases as  is needed to                                                               
investigate  a major  bioterrorism  event.   She suggested  these                                                               
funds  therefore would  offer double  duty, and  again emphasized                                                               
the belief  that much of  the request will  be able to  be funded                                                               
with federal money.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1774                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON added  that it  is a  GF request  because when  [the                                                               
department]  prepared  this   [appropriation  request],  Congress                                                               
hadn't  yet  passed  the bioterrorism  bill.    [The  department]                                                               
hadn't known, therefore, that potentially  there would be federal                                                               
money to support some of these activities.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1822                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE began addressing Item  53, which read, "Provide Simple                                                               
Triage and  Rapid Treatment (START)  Triage kits for  EMS service                                                               
providers  statewide."   She said  it  is a  capital request  for                                                               
$20,000  to  purchase  START  kits  for  EMS  [emergency  medical                                                               
services] providers  throughout the state.   She deferred  to Ms.                                                               
Pearson.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON  explained that  these  are  the  kits used  by  EMS                                                               
personnel in order  to triage.  [The  department's] EMS personnel                                                               
have said  this would  be very  helpful in  assessing what  to do                                                               
next with a  particular person, for example.  She  said she could                                                               
get information on the exact products in the kits.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT said  he'd be  curious  as to  whether those  are                                                               
related to a  bioterrorism threat, but questioned that.   He said                                                               
he understood  that [EMS  personnel] should  have such  a supply,                                                               
however, without a borough or  city government having to bear the                                                               
burden of providing them.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1919                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE offered  her  understanding that  the  kits focus  on                                                               
multiple or  mass casualties, although  she didn't know  what was                                                               
in the kits either.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  explained that "triage"  refers to  making decisions                                                               
about  who needs  to  be  treated first,  who  might  need to  be                                                               
evacuated, and so  forth.  However, she didn't  know exactly what                                                               
these kits were designed to triage.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT said  although he'd be curious to know  what is in                                                               
the kits, it wasn't important [to know].                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1984                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE began  discussion  of Item  54,  which read,  "Public                                                               
Health and Epidemiology increases  needed to address bioterrorism                                                               
cases."   She noted that it  has two pieces.   First, $450,000 is                                                               
for  additional  staff  and appropriate  travel  and  contractual                                                               
funds for the epidemiology section;  these are the people who are                                                               
disease  investigators,   which  requires  a  lot   of  work  and                                                               
expertise,  particularly with  some of  the emerging  diseases or                                                               
bioterrorism  events.    She reiterated  that  these  people  can                                                               
investigate  either infectious  diseases or  bioterrorism events,                                                               
which is how they've been used nationwide.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  added that these are  the nurse-epidemiologists who,                                                               
when  there  is an  outbreak,  actually  go  out and  direct  the                                                               
investigation,  which includes  deciding who  needs to  be tested                                                               
or, in  the case of a  food-borne outbreak, whom the  nurses need                                                               
to contact and maybe get specimens  or samples from.  They do the                                                               
directing, consultation,  and, in  many cases, the  actual "nurse                                                               
work"  out  in  the  field.    Noting  that  [the  division]  has                                                               
investigations on a [continual] basis,  she cited a current food-                                                               
borne outbreak  in Anchorage  as an example  and pointed  out how                                                               
labor-intensive the process is; she provided details.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2113                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE  reported that  the second  portion, $240,000,  is for                                                               
additional staff and test kits for the lab.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON  called this a  "capacity issue  of being able  to do                                                               
the tests."   She reiterated that part of this  was requested the                                                               
previous  year in  the  "Back  to Basics"  request  for the  lab,                                                               
[epidemiology],  and nursing.   She  cited a  new urine  test for                                                               
chlamydia and gonorrhea  as an example of a test  that costs more                                                               
- $10  versus $4  or $5  for the  earlier version  - but  is more                                                               
acceptable [to  the public];  the hope is  that many  more people                                                               
who  have  been exposed  to  these  diseases will  be  discovered                                                               
because  more [sexual]  partners will  be tested,  but each  test                                                               
will cost twice as  much as before.  She said this  is a very big                                                               
area  for public  health:   the  Alaskan  community doesn't  want                                                               
people to go untreated for  sexually transmitted diseases because                                                               
the  diseases will  then spread  and affect  fertility and  cause                                                               
other problems.  She emphasized the  desire to not have cost be a                                                               
barrier to getting a test done if people need that test.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE remarked that chlamydia  is a serious disease that can                                                               
cause infertility in women if untreated.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON noted  that  CDC [Centers  for  Disease Control  and                                                               
Prevention]  has said  Alaska  has  the second-highest  chlamydia                                                               
rate in the  country.  She mentioned pilot  projects in Anchorage                                                               
for routine testing of women  coming in for early pregnancy care,                                                               
and she offered  the belief that there is more  disease out there                                                               
than people are actually aware of.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2245                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  offered his understanding, then,  that [$450,000]                                                               
is for staff and travel.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE agreed,  saying it  is for  the epidemiologists.   In                                                               
further response,  she said  the $240,000  is for  one additional                                                               
position in the labs and additional contractual money.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2278                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE began  addressing Item 55, which  read, "Public Health                                                               
nursing positions."   She noted  that this is for  six positions,                                                               
the  "front-line first  responders"  out in  the  field who  help                                                               
vaccinate  if there  is  a  mass bioterrorism  event  or a  mass-                                                               
infection problem, for instance.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEARSON, in response to  Representative Green, explained that                                                               
identification  of  an outbreak  or  problem  can come  from  any                                                               
source,   including   a   [private]  physician.      The   nurse-                                                               
epidemiologists all  operate out of  Anchorage and are  "our core                                                               
team,"  with special  knowledge  in tracking  and finding  things                                                               
out; they  have special expertise  in infectious disease  and how                                                               
to do  epidemiological investigations and follow-up.   The public                                                               
health  nurses,   by  contrast,   are  generalists   serving  the                                                               
community  and would  give the  immunizations that  would prevent                                                               
the outbreaks  that would cause  the nurse team to  be activated.                                                               
The nurse-epidemiologist  would be the  lead person who  would go                                                               
to a  community where there  was an outbreak, would  mobilize the                                                               
local public  health nurses,  and would  serve as  the day-to-day                                                               
technical person  whom the public  health nurses would  call when                                                               
they had questions relating to infectious disease.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON, in  response to  Chair Chenault  regarding the  six                                                               
requested  positions, noted  that  these would  be public  health                                                               
nurses who would  be out in the communities doing  all the public                                                               
health  work  such as  immunizing  children,  doing follow-up  on                                                               
sexually  transmitted  diseases,  and   so  forth.    In  further                                                               
response, she  said the likely  places "where we're  really short                                                               
of staff or  we have particularly strong need"  are Saint Mary's,                                                               
Dillingham, Valdez, Wasilla, Seward, and the Bethel area.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2465                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  asked whether there were  further questions; none                                                               
were  offered.    He  thanked  Ms. Clarke  and  Ms.  Pearson  and                                                               
announced  that the  rest  of  the issues  in  [DHSS] would  most                                                               
probably be looked at some other time.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE  offered  to  provide  information  as  soon  as  the                                                               
department knows more about the federal funding.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEARSON,  in response  to  a  question from  Chair  Chenault                                                               
[relating  to  the  department's   handout  provided  that  day],                                                               
explained that the 6.9 [million  dollars] is the total for public                                                               
health.   The  first section,  which  is for  the general  public                                                               
health  infrastructure,  is  6.4   [million  dollars],  and  then                                                               
[approximately] $500,000 is for hospital [preparedness].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT indicated understanding.  [HB 324 was held over.]                                                                

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